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Piper PA-28-161 Warrior vs Piper PA-28-181 Archer

The two side by side, from the FAA registry, the FAA's Airworthiness Directives and Service Difficulty Reports, and the NTSB's accident database. Each has a full guide: Piper PA-28-161 Warrior, Piper PA-28-181 Archer.

Where they differ

  • The Piper PA-28-181 fleet is younger: half of those registered were built by 1986, against 1979 for the Piper PA-28-161.
  • There are more Piper PA-28-181s to choose from: 3,425 registered against 1,501.
  • Most Piper PA-28-161s have the Lycoming O-320; most Piper PA-28-181s the Lycoming O-360.
  • The Piper PA-28-181 burns more fuel in a typical cruise: about 9.5 gallons an hour against 8.5.
  • Mechanics report the Piper PA-28-161's reciprocating engine cylinder section most, and the Piper PA-28-181's fuselage miscellaneous structure.

Side by side

Piper PA-28-161 WarriorPiper PA-28-181 Archer
Registered in the US1,5013,425
Built1977 to 20151975 to 2026
Half built by19791986
Seats44
Most common engineLycoming O-320Lycoming O-360
Typical cruise fuel burn8.5 gal/hr9.5 gal/hr
Engine overhaul intervalThe engine maker's published hours between overhauls.2,000 hr2,000 hr
Current airframe ADs5959
Airframe ADs with a repeat action33
Current ADs on the main engine2424
Service Difficulty ReportsSince the year shown in each guide; per 1,000 registered today.102 (68.0 per 1,000)790 (230.7 per 1,000)
Most-reported systemReciprocating Engine Cylinder SectionFuselage Miscellaneous Structure
Accidents since 2008Per 1,000 registered today, not per hour flown: a training fleet flies far more than a private one.110 (73.3 per 1,000)130 (38.0 per 1,000)
Fatal accidents since 20081919
Most common accidentLoss of control on groundLoss of control on ground

Report and accident counts are not rates: nobody publishes the hours each model flies, and a training fleet flies far more than a private one. Fuel burn is a typical cruise figure; the engine interval is its maker's published figure for the usual engine.

The Piper PA-28-161's repeat-action ADs

  • 2017-14-04Engine oil
  • 2013-02-13Requires inspections of the stabilator control system and replacement of parts as necessary
  • 2010-26-04Requires installing a full authority digital engine control (FADEC) backup battery, replacing the supplement pilot's operating handbook and FAA approved airplane flight manual, and revising the limitations section of...
Every AD for the Piper PA-28-161

The Piper PA-28-181's repeat-action ADs

  • 2017-14-04Engine oil
  • 2013-02-13Requires inspections of the stabilator control system and replacement of parts as necessary
  • 2010-26-04Requires installing a full authority digital engine control (FADEC) backup battery, replacing the supplement pilot's operating handbook and FAA approved airplane flight manual, and revising the limitations section of...
Every AD for the Piper PA-28-181

Questions

Which has more Airworthiness Directives, the Piper PA-28-161 or the Piper PA-28-181?
59 current ADs name the Piper PA-28-161 airframe and 59 the Piper PA-28-181; 3 and 3 of them have a repeat action.
Which is newer, the Piper PA-28-161 or the Piper PA-28-181?
Half of the Piper PA-28-161s registered were built by 1979, half of the Piper PA-28-181s by 1986.
How do the Piper PA-28-161 and Piper PA-28-181 accident records compare?
110 accidents since 2008 for the Piper PA-28-161 (19 fatal) against 130 for the Piper PA-28-181 (19 fatal), from fleets of 1,501 and 3,425. Counts, not rates per hour flown.

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