Compare
Cessna 180 Skywagon vs Cessna A185F Skywagon
The two side by side, from the FAA registry, the FAA's Airworthiness Directives and Service Difficulty Reports, and the NTSB's accident database. Each has a full guide: Cessna 180 Skywagon, Cessna A185F Skywagon.
Where they differ
- The Cessna A185F fleet is younger: half of those registered were built by 1977, against 1955 for the Cessna 180.
- Most Cessna 180s have the Continental O-470; most Cessna A185Fs the Continental IO-520.
- Mechanics report the Cessna 180's flight compartment equipment most, and the Cessna A185F's reciprocating engine power section.
Side by side
| Cessna 180 Skywagon | Cessna A185F Skywagon | |
|---|---|---|
| Registered in the US | 1,167 | 1,105 |
| Built | 1953 to 1965 | 1973 to 1985 |
| Half built by | 1955 | 1977 |
| Seats | 4 | 6 |
| Most common engine | Continental O-470 | Continental IO-520 |
| Typical cruise fuel burn | Not set | Not set |
| Engine overhaul intervalThe engine maker's published hours between overhauls. | Not set | Not set |
| Current airframe ADs | 22 | 16 |
| Airframe ADs with a repeat action | 2 | 2 |
| Current ADs on the main engine | 20 | 28 |
| Service Difficulty ReportsSince the year shown in each guide; per 1,000 registered today. | 6 (5.1 per 1,000) | 19 (17.2 per 1,000) |
| Most-reported system | Flight Compartment Equipment | Reciprocating Engine Power Section |
| Accidents since 2008Per 1,000 registered today, not per hour flown: a training fleet flies far more than a private one. | 218 (186.8 per 1,000) | 109 (98.6 per 1,000) |
| Fatal accidents since 2008 | 13 | 13 |
| Most common accident | Loss of control on ground | Loss of control on ground |
Report and accident counts are not rates: nobody publishes the hours each model flies, and a training fleet flies far more than a private one. Fuel burn is a typical cruise figure; the engine interval is its maker's published figure for the usual engine.
The Cessna 180's repeat-action ADs
- 2020-21-22Requires inspecting the tailcone and horizontal stabilizer for corrosion and cracks and repairing or replacing damaged parts as necessary
- 2011-10-09Requires retaining all of the actions from the previous AD and adding steps to the inspection procedures in the previous AD
The Cessna A185F's repeat-action ADs
- 2020-21-22Requires inspecting the tailcone and horizontal stabilizer for corrosion and cracks and repairing or replacing damaged parts as necessary
- 2011-10-09Requires retaining all of the actions from the previous AD and adding steps to the inspection procedures in the previous AD
Questions
- Which has more Airworthiness Directives, the Cessna 180 or the Cessna A185F?
- 22 current ADs name the Cessna 180 airframe and 16 the Cessna A185F; 2 and 2 of them have a repeat action.
- Which is newer, the Cessna 180 or the Cessna A185F?
- Half of the Cessna 180s registered were built by 1955, half of the Cessna A185Fs by 1977.
- How do the Cessna 180 and Cessna A185F accident records compare?
- 218 accidents since 2008 for the Cessna 180 (13 fatal) against 109 for the Cessna A185F (13 fatal), from fleets of 1,167 and 1,105. Counts, not rates per hour flown.